ShannonWelcome back to Everyday Leader. Shannon here with Conrad. Today we're going to start -- and I mean start, not finish -- a conversation about a topic I've been hearing a lot about lately. That is what we mean by masculine and feminine energy in leadership.
ConradBefore we go anywhere with this, I want to make one thing clear: we're not talking about how a person identifies, or whether they are male or female. In this context, we're talking about two distinct energies -- masculine and feminine -- that are available to every leader. What I've been hearing is that these two things get collapsed. The assumption becomes: this person is male, so they must have this type of leadership. That's not what we're saying at all.
ShannonExactly. And the oversimplification is actually harmful. When we start labeling leaders as a woman leader or a man leader and attaching assumptions to those labels, we miss the actual conversation. We're talking about energy -- which isn't something that shows up in most corporate leadership training programs, but it should.
ConradThese are two primary energies. Masculine energy has a quality of action, movement, forward momentum -- taking a stand, getting things done, direction. Feminine energy has a quality of space, openness, holding -- heart, inclusivity, receptivity. Neither is better. Both are necessary. The invitation is to look at your own leadership and ask: where do I tend toward action and direction, and where do I tend toward openness and holding space?
ShannonEffective leadership requires both. And all of us -- regardless of how we identify -- have the capacity for both energies.
ConradOver-indexing either way is not effective. What you need is range. I have a client who is deeply in touch with his feminine energy -- wonderful at holding space, nurturing, compassionate. His team loves him. And what he brought to our work was this: they weren't getting anything done. So we explored how he could access the masculine -- the action, the decisiveness -- that was already within him. It wasn't about changing who he was. It was about expanding his range.
ShannonThe question isn't about finding the exact right fixed amount of each. It's situational -- what does this moment require? What am I in service of right now?
ConradAnd to make that choice, you have to know what's available to you. You need to know: I can dial up steadiness. I can dial up nurturing. I can access both -- but only if I've done the work of recognizing them in myself.
ShannonFor now: what assumptions are you making about masculine and feminine leadership energy? What do you already know to be true for yourself? And where might your leadership be more effective if you turned up the volume on one -- or turned it down?
ConradI'll add one more: if one of these energies comes naturally to you -- if it's your default -- what would it be like to consciously turn it down and make room for the other? That's where the growth often lives.
ShannonUntil next time -- be well.
Transcript lightly edited for readability.