ShannonWelcome back to Everyday Leader. Shannon and Conrad here. Today we're unpacking a concept we use a lot in our work: containers. It's a word we use to describe the structure you create intentionally -- to shape the experience you want going into any situation.
ConradI love this topic. I was making chocolate chip cookies the other day, and to do it right, I had to pull out the right bowl -- a container. Different ingredients go in, get blended together, and the experience is held by that structure. That's the metaphor: a container holds everything that matters and keeps it from spilling all over the counter.
ShannonWe're in a season where a lot of people are heading into gatherings -- holidays, family events, parties. These situations can bring us into relationship with people in ways that are meaningful, and also in ways that can be challenging. What does it look like to go into one of those situations with no plan at all?
ConradNo plan, no intention, no orientation. You're just there because you're supposed to be. And we know what happens when we're doing something out of pure obligation -- it lands differently. In the body, in the room, in the people around you.
ShannonSo a container is a way to create a plan with some actual ingredients in it. The first one is intention. Why are you doing this? What do you want from it? For me at this time of year, what's important is having meaningful conversations with the people I'm closest to. That's my intention going into a gathering -- not to cover the whole room, but to connect in a real way with certain people.
ConradThere's a sacredness to that. Setting the intention and then actively cherishing and seeking those moments. So we have the container, and inside it we have intention. Containers also have edges -- and those edges are agreements and boundaries. Like the walls of the bowl, they hold everything in and keep things from spilling.
ShannonBefore we even get to the edges, there's something I want to name: do you have a partner in this? Someone you can design with before you walk in? If I'm going to an event with my husband, we talk through the container together -- what we each want, what we're willing to flex on, even the very tactical stuff like whether we're leaving together and when. Having an ally changes everything.
ConradAnd for those who are going into something without a physical ally -- you can still draw on support in other ways. The intention itself becomes your grounding. So the container holds: intention, agreements, and the edges of how you want to show up. And when something pushes against those edges -- someone claims your table, the conversation goes sideways -- you have something to return to.
ShannonThat's the real gift of the container. It's a north star. When things don't go the way you wanted, you know what's important and why -- so you can decide consciously what to flex on and what to hold. You're not just reacting. You're choosing.
ConradAnd that choice -- that presence -- is the deepest benefit. When you've done the work of creating a container, you have more space to respond thoughtfully, even at the edges. You're grounded in something. That groundedness is what allows you to be fully there, for yourself and for others.
ShannonWe'd love to hear what happens when you try this. Build a container for something coming up. See what it does. And enjoy what you're able to create when you have a structure that holds you.
ConradBe well. See you next time.
Transcript lightly edited for readability.