When is it Enough? | Everyday Leader Podcast

When is it Enough?

Episode 2 · Resilience · 10 min  ·  2025

As leaders, we are conditioned to stay, act, and produce -- and taking a break can feel like abandonment. Shannon and Conrad explore the difference between unconsciously avoiding and consciously pausing, and why the ability to step onto the riverbank -- still connected, but no longer in the current -- is one of the most important skills a leader can develop.


What you’ll take away

There is a difference between unconsciously avoiding and consciously pausing -- knowing what the break is for is what makes it a leadership practice rather than an escape.

You can be on the riverbank -- resting, gaining perspective, recovering -- and still be connected to the river. Separation and connection are not opposites.

In a culture that equates productivity with worth, taking a break is a countercultural act -- and you can be in more sustained action when there is genuine rest behind it.


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